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		<title>By: marta</title>
		<link>http://truthinaging.com/treatments/radio-frequency-therapy-eliminates-sagging-jawlines/comment-page-1#comment-44341</link>
		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna
Sorry about the tardy response. I was waiting for a reply from Ildi and then on vacation. Unfortunately, she is very protective of her machines and won&#039;t divulge the make. I do know that it is one of the latest (about two years old). Caci seems to have cornered the UK market (I had them when I lived in London). As far as I know they are good machines. However, there are two things to bear in mind: try to find a salon with the very newest machines with multiple settings; secondly, remember that microcurrent&#039;s success very much depends on the skill of the esthetician as it can really be manipulated to &quot;sculpt&quot; the face and work more intensely on problem areas. 

I don&#039;t know anything about Therma Skin and haven&#039;t been able to find much in the way of reviews. Future-tec sounds gimmicky to me - claims to combine microcurrent, ultrasound, laser etc... It is made by Caci as well. Personally, I&#039;d go for the best microcurrent machine you can find in the hands of someone really good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna<br />
Sorry about the tardy response. I was waiting for a reply from Ildi and then on vacation. Unfortunately, she is very protective of her machines and won&#8217;t divulge the make. I do know that it is one of the latest (about two years old). Caci seems to have cornered the UK market (I had them when I lived in London). As far as I know they are good machines. However, there are two things to bear in mind: try to find a salon with the very newest machines with multiple settings; secondly, remember that microcurrent&#8217;s success very much depends on the skill of the esthetician as it can really be manipulated to &#8220;sculpt&#8221; the face and work more intensely on problem areas. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about Therma Skin and haven&#8217;t been able to find much in the way of reviews. Future-tec sounds gimmicky to me &#8211; claims to combine microcurrent, ultrasound, laser etc&#8230; It is made by Caci as well. Personally, I&#8217;d go for the best microcurrent machine you can find in the hands of someone really good.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marta, I started CACI facials once a month, after reading about micro current facials at TIA. I live in the UK and Hong Kong, and there doesn&#039;t seem to be any other brand of machine used by facialists here, so I was wondering whether you know anything about it? Also, I would love to have radio frequency facials too, and wondered if you had heard of Therma Skin or Future-Tec, for us non-US readers who can&#039;t get the exact equivalent of the facials you get from Ildi! Btw, I also have a Baby Quasar, which I love! Thanks very much- Anna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marta, I started CACI facials once a month, after reading about micro current facials at TIA. I live in the UK and Hong Kong, and there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any other brand of machine used by facialists here, so I was wondering whether you know anything about it? Also, I would love to have radio frequency facials too, and wondered if you had heard of Therma Skin or Future-Tec, for us non-US readers who can&#8217;t get the exact equivalent of the facials you get from Ildi! Btw, I also have a Baby Quasar, which I love! Thanks very much- Anna</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://truthinaging.com/treatments/radio-frequency-therapy-eliminates-sagging-jawlines/comment-page-1#comment-28464</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried a series of IPL and RF and saw no results at all, no tightening of lax skin especially neck and jaw line. ( I am 47 with pretty good skin) Very expensive and dissapointing. I tried the micro laser peel and loved it although the down time was 5 days. My skin looked much more firm and wrinkles were reduced significantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried a series of IPL and RF and saw no results at all, no tightening of lax skin especially neck and jaw line. ( I am 47 with pretty good skin) Very expensive and dissapointing. I tried the micro laser peel and loved it although the down time was 5 days. My skin looked much more firm and wrinkles were reduced significantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radio Frequency, referred to as RF, has been around for some time.  Most dermatologists and plastic surgeons are familiar with RF technology.  RF, radio frequency, is using high heat energy in short, intense bursts to stimulate the deeper layers of the dermis.  As mentioned, Thermage, is one of the first RF equipment out there for physicians to use.  RF energy is what is in your microwave.  When you place your food into the microwave, the RF energy heats up the water molecules in the food, which in turn the molecules move very quickly creating heat energy.  This heat energy is what cooks the food.    In the skin, this heat energy is stimulating to the skin cells and tissues. Skin is mostly made up of water.    Once the heat is gone and the skin tissue cools, there is a contractions of the tissues.

When RF came out, physicians did have complications, because they used settings that may have been too powerful which caused too much heat within the skin causing loss of facial fat, which became noticeable around the eye and cheek areas.  In the face,one does not want to remove too much fat in these areas because as we age naturally, we lose facial volume.  So, what happened was many individuals had RF treatments around their eyes for &quot;tightening&quot; and in several months, they had sunken-in eye appearance from the excess shrinkage of fat which surrounds the eye.  They looked worse.

Home RF devices will not have the same power as medical.  That would be dangerous and that would be a non-medical person practicing medicine without a license.

LED Light therapy is based of light energy and not RF energy.  They are different.

Keep in mind, RF, radio frequency treatments do not address the visible surface of the skin.  If someone is concerned about pigmentation, redness, comedones, acne, dryness, then one must consider peels, products, etc. to address the surface conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radio Frequency, referred to as RF, has been around for some time.  Most dermatologists and plastic surgeons are familiar with RF technology.  RF, radio frequency, is using high heat energy in short, intense bursts to stimulate the deeper layers of the dermis.  As mentioned, Thermage, is one of the first RF equipment out there for physicians to use.  RF energy is what is in your microwave.  When you place your food into the microwave, the RF energy heats up the water molecules in the food, which in turn the molecules move very quickly creating heat energy.  This heat energy is what cooks the food.    In the skin, this heat energy is stimulating to the skin cells and tissues. Skin is mostly made up of water.    Once the heat is gone and the skin tissue cools, there is a contractions of the tissues.</p>
<p>When RF came out, physicians did have complications, because they used settings that may have been too powerful which caused too much heat within the skin causing loss of facial fat, which became noticeable around the eye and cheek areas.  In the face,one does not want to remove too much fat in these areas because as we age naturally, we lose facial volume.  So, what happened was many individuals had RF treatments around their eyes for &#8220;tightening&#8221; and in several months, they had sunken-in eye appearance from the excess shrinkage of fat which surrounds the eye.  They looked worse.</p>
<p>Home RF devices will not have the same power as medical.  That would be dangerous and that would be a non-medical person practicing medicine without a license.</p>
<p>LED Light therapy is based of light energy and not RF energy.  They are different.</p>
<p>Keep in mind, RF, radio frequency treatments do not address the visible surface of the skin.  If someone is concerned about pigmentation, redness, comedones, acne, dryness, then one must consider peels, products, etc. to address the surface conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
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		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Elsa,
Firstly, LED and RF (radio frequency) are different. I think they are both effective at a salon. But I haven&#039;t yet found a good RF device for at home use. Whist the Baby Quasar is LED and it is very good. If you are a subscriber to our newsletter, you can get a 10% discount on it at our shop: http://truthinaging.theopenskyproject.com/baby-quasar.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Elsa,<br />
Firstly, LED and RF (radio frequency) are different. I think they are both effective at a salon. But I haven&#8217;t yet found a good RF device for at home use. Whist the Baby Quasar is LED and it is very good. If you are a subscriber to our newsletter, you can get a 10% discount on it at our shop: <a href="http://truthinaging.theopenskyproject.com/baby-quasar.html" rel="nofollow">http://truthinaging.theopenskyproject.com/baby-quasar.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Marta

I am in the process of &#039;finding&#039; the funds to buy the Baby Quasar. Do you think I should wait because something better is coming on to the market or should I go ahead and buy it? 

Thanks,

Elsa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Marta</p>
<p>I am in the process of &#8216;finding&#8217; the funds to buy the Baby Quasar. Do you think I should wait because something better is coming on to the market or should I go ahead and buy it? </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Elsa.</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
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		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, it doesn&#039;t hurt at all. I can reveal that it is the Trio. See my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/cellulite-gets-the-treatment-with-radio-frequency/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post on cellulite and the treatment&lt;/a&gt; I had the other day (come to NYC, Ildi&#039;s offering 50% off for a short time!).http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/cellulite-gets-the-treatment-with-radio-frequency/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, it doesn&#8217;t hurt at all. I can reveal that it is the Trio. See my <a href="http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/cellulite-gets-the-treatment-with-radio-frequency/" rel="nofollow">post on cellulite and the treatment</a> I had the other day (come to NYC, Ildi&#8217;s offering 50% off for a short time!).http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/cellulite-gets-the-treatment-with-radio-frequency/</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marta, Did the RF treatment you had with Ildi hurt? I&#039;ve had Thermage and it hurt like the dickens.  Beyond which, it did NOTHING for me. 
So great, I paid all this money to be tortured and got no results. 

Tell us more about Ildi&#039;s machine when she is able to reveal its name.
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marta, Did the RF treatment you had with Ildi hurt? I&#8217;ve had Thermage and it hurt like the dickens.  Beyond which, it did NOTHING for me.<br />
So great, I paid all this money to be tortured and got no results. </p>
<p>Tell us more about Ildi&#8217;s machine when she is able to reveal its name.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are wonderful!  Thanks, Marta!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are wonderful!  Thanks, Marta!</p>
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		<title>By: marta</title>
		<link>http://truthinaging.com/treatments/radio-frequency-therapy-eliminates-sagging-jawlines/comment-page-1#comment-18414</link>
		<dc:creator>marta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Beth, I&#039;m trying to piece all this together, but this is what I have so far. Syneron uses elos technology in Velashape. We wrote about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/cellulite-treatments-velashape/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Velashape getting a bad rap from doctors&lt;/a&gt;. And I checked again on a website called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medicalspamd.com/display/ShowPost?moduleId=657099&amp;postId=189636#post266049&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Medicalspa&lt;/a&gt; and although some professionals liked it, most said it was useless and one admits that it took a year to learn how to use it and not burn patients. Here&#039;s a sample: &quot;ELOS technology has put more med spas to rest than all other manufacturers combined. The number of ELOS systems on the used market is a strong indicator of these facts.&quot; Another says: &quot;Matrix IF, non fractional skin rejunevator ( wrinkle reduction) hurts like @#$% but it works really well on my clients.&quot;

Talking of painful. Thermage really hurts. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/fraxel-versus-thermage/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We wrote about Thermage&lt;/a&gt; and the results don&#039;t seem to be worth it.

If I were you, I&#039;d get some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/led-update-my-second-treatment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LED treatments&lt;/a&gt;. Safe, not painful, work. And top up at home with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/reviewed-and-recommended-baby-quasar-at-home-led-device/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Baby Quasar&lt;/a&gt;. 

Good luck with the reunion. I&#039;ll bet you&#039;ll turn out to be slimmer and looking at least five years younger than the rest of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth, I&#8217;m trying to piece all this together, but this is what I have so far. Syneron uses elos technology in Velashape. We wrote about <a href="http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/cellulite-treatments-velashape/" rel="nofollow">Velashape getting a bad rap from doctors</a>. And I checked again on a website called <a href="http://www.medicalspamd.com/display/ShowPost?moduleId=657099&amp;postId=189636#post266049" rel="nofollow">Medicalspa</a> and although some professionals liked it, most said it was useless and one admits that it took a year to learn how to use it and not burn patients. Here&#8217;s a sample: &#8220;ELOS technology has put more med spas to rest than all other manufacturers combined. The number of ELOS systems on the used market is a strong indicator of these facts.&#8221; Another says: &#8220;Matrix IF, non fractional skin rejunevator ( wrinkle reduction) hurts like @#$% but it works really well on my clients.&#8221;</p>
<p>Talking of painful. Thermage really hurts. <a href="http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/fraxel-versus-thermage/" rel="nofollow">We wrote about Thermage</a> and the results don&#8217;t seem to be worth it.</p>
<p>If I were you, I&#8217;d get some <a href="http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/led-update-my-second-treatment/" rel="nofollow">LED treatments</a>. Safe, not painful, work. And top up at home with a <a href="http://www.truthinaging.com/treatments/reviewed-and-recommended-baby-quasar-at-home-led-device/" rel="nofollow">Baby Quasar</a>. </p>
<p>Good luck with the reunion. I&#8217;ll bet you&#8217;ll turn out to be slimmer and looking at least five years younger than the rest of them.</p>
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